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Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
Lebowski- Nombre de messages : 368
Age : 24
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Date d'inscription : 24/06/2008
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GweN- Nombre de messages : 1516
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Date d'inscription : 03/06/2008
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Moi j'aime, c'est frai. Simple et efficace
GTD- Nombre de messages : 765
Age : 35
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Date d'inscription : 17/08/2008
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Gros foutage de gueule.
Wilson Fisk- Nombre de messages : 2729
Age : 66
Localisation : DAMN !
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Date d'inscription : 03/06/2008
- Message n°34
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Moi aussi j'aime bien
Après je sais pas ce que vous en attendiez, mais moi pas plus
Meilleur que le Deck
Après j'suis d'accord sur le concept de chier sur RZA pour ce qu'il a fait sur 8 Diagrams et rien balancer de révolutionnaire derrière
Après je sais pas ce que vous en attendiez, mais moi pas plus
Meilleur que le Deck
Après j'suis d'accord sur le concept de chier sur RZA pour ce qu'il a fait sur 8 Diagrams et rien balancer de révolutionnaire derrière
Admin- Admin
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Date d'inscription : 03/06/2008
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Inspectah Deck, damn, awful...
Malamati- Nombre de messages : 4032
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Date d'inscription : 19/06/2008
- Message n°36
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ouai bon c'est pas aussi pourri que je pouvais le penser. Enfin ça passera pas 3 fois dans mon lecteur...
GweN- Nombre de messages : 1516
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Date d'inscription : 03/06/2008
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Réécoutez le Wu Massacre, ya du lourd dessus à la 2ème écoute et du gros beat
black eagle- Nombre de messages : 681
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Date d'inscription : 30/06/2008
- Message n°38
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Je suis d'accord avec Gwen y a du bon quand dessus !
Déja ca commence bien fort avec Criminology 2.5.
Aprés certaines tracks ont été un peu baclé mais y a de la bonne came faut pas se voiler la face.
Déja ca commence bien fort avec Criminology 2.5.
Aprés certaines tracks ont été un peu baclé mais y a de la bonne came faut pas se voiler la face.
Hooks- Nombre de messages : 838
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Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
- Message n°39
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C'est net qu'il y a quelques gros gros sons, perso j'en retiens cinq qui vont bu bons au tres bons (Criminology, Mef vs Chef, Dangerous, Pimpin Chipp et Miranda).
Mais bon sortir un skeud avec aussi peu de tracks alors qu'il sont trois, avec des feats, c'est vraiment abusé, surtout qu'il y a deux skits et que les sons tournent en moyenne autour de 2min50 quoi c'est du foutage de gueule quand meme.
Pis y a quand meme du dechets (Gunshowers par ex).
L'album est honnête, mais vu l'affiche, vu comment ils ont fait attendre le truc et tout l'reste j'suis fort déçu c'est clair et net.
Mais bon sortir un skeud avec aussi peu de tracks alors qu'il sont trois, avec des feats, c'est vraiment abusé, surtout qu'il y a deux skits et que les sons tournent en moyenne autour de 2min50 quoi c'est du foutage de gueule quand meme.
Pis y a quand meme du dechets (Gunshowers par ex).
L'album est honnête, mais vu l'affiche, vu comment ils ont fait attendre le truc et tout l'reste j'suis fort déçu c'est clair et net.
Malamati- Nombre de messages : 4032
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Date d'inscription : 19/06/2008
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Criminology c'est une blague? Honteux.
Non mais justement vu l'affiche y'avait rien à espérer de +. Le Wu sans Rza c'est de la merde en branche.
Non mais justement vu l'affiche y'avait rien à espérer de +. Le Wu sans Rza c'est de la merde en branche.
Hooks- Nombre de messages : 838
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Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
- Message n°41
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Bah justement j'pensais qu'ils allaient vouloir faire leur truc a eux, et sortir un gros trucs pour prouver qu'ils etaient toujours la.. mais bon apparement j'ai été fort naïf sur ce coup
Malamati- Nombre de messages : 4032
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Date d'inscription : 19/06/2008
- Message n°42
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ah ah ouai. Ce sont des crétins ces gars là faut pas oublier ça...
JP Kof Kof- Nombre de messages : 790
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Points : 607
Date d'inscription : 09/06/2008
- Message n°43
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Tjs pas écouté l'album en entier par contre j me suis commandé le putain de t-shirt qui va avec, j pourrai faire le kéké au stade cet été ^^
http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/detail.asp?=Rocksmith-x-Be-Street-x-Wu-Tang-Clan-Wu-Massacre-LIMITED-EDITION-Rocksmith-Tokyo&UPC=RSWU01STS
Voilà une review ghostwritée par Malamati je pense^^
When the concept of Wu-Massacre was announced last year, I
shrieked like a little schoolgirl. What Wu stan wouldn't? A
collaborative effort by three members of the Wu-Tang Clan, as opposed
to yet another solo album? The posse cuts on the solo albums were
typically the highlight anyway: the members of the Wu-Tang Clan
sounded (mostly) good alone, but when combined with their brethren, it
was akin to mixing chemicals and having the beaker explode with
joy and/or spunk. So when I first heard that Method Man, Ghostface
Killah, and Raekwon would be joining forces to battle the dark side, I
was, obviously, excited. There was even an article where Ghost was
quoted as saying that these three are not forming a new group,
because they were already in the Clan, leading me to believe that Wu-Massacre wouldn't betray the original
intentions of the Wu: to take over the game using creativity instead of
cliché.
Wu-Massacre quickly jumped to the top of
the list of Wu-Tang Clan projects that I actually wanted to hear.
(Astute followers of HHID will notice that, as of this writing, I still
haven't written about Ghost's Ghostdini: The Wizard of Poetry In
Emerald City, the posthumous Ol' Dirty Bastard “album”, or
Inspectah Deck's Manifesto. Just because I love the Wu doesn't
mean that I need to go batshit crazy about every album, you know. I
still haven't reviewed the first Afro Samurai soundtrack,
either.)
And then the concerns started appearing.
First of all, Wu-Massacre was going to be released on Def
Jam Records, a label that (a) has had issues in the past with marketing
Method Man and Ghostface Killah albums (Raekwon is essentially an
A-list indie rapper), and (b) sucks balls today, with its emphasis on
artists such as Rick Ross. But that was still workable, because Def Jam
is still a major, and that just means that there may be more facings
of Wu-Massacre on store shelves at Best Buy. This
could still work.
And then the tracklisting leaked. Wu-Massacre only features twelve tracks, two
of which are (what I assume as unnecessary) skits. Ten tracks total.
Well, that isn't a big deal, right? Put our three hosts on every track,
with the occasional guest (names such as Deck and (ugh, really?)
Cappadonna were thrown about), and ten tracks could stretch out fairly
easily. It's better to have Wu-Massacre half short and twice strong,
right? All killer, no filler?
When I read about who would be contributing
beats to Wu-Massacre, a sinking feeling started to seep
in, because the only person I actually wanted to see on the
fucking album, The Rza, only handled the beat on one song. I
realize that the guy is busy, but if music is his first love, one would
think that Bobby Digital would
have some extra instrumentals lying around in the lab that he could
hand over to the guys he broke through with. But, sadly, even this
is something I can work around: it isn't as if The Rza is known these
days to handle an entire album that isn't his own.
Man, Wu stans can rationalize everything,
can't they?
Excitement on the Interweb reached a boiling
point when the album artwork leaked, as it is fucking badass.
Comic book fans especially were thrown for a loop, as Wu-Massacre now held the promise of being the
comeback Wu-Tang Clan album that fans have been waiting for ever since
the disappointing (to everyone else, maybe, but not me) 8 Diagrams
dropped. Even with Def Jam leaking single after single to various
blogs, I remained as amped up for Wu-Massacre as I was for the Slaughterhouse
album. There was no way that this album could be a complete
fuck-up, right?
And then Wu-Massacre rushed out of the faucet. And
mixed in with the praise of Meth, Ghost, and Rae's latest opus were
some very detailed criticisms of the project.
And then Method Man apologized for Wu-Massacre, saying that Def Jam rushed the
final product (which is weird, since it was originally supposed to drop
back in December but was pushed back to today) and that he, Ghost, and
Rae didn't get to make the album that they wanted. Meth also told
whoever would listen that there wasn't a time when all three rappers
appeared in the same room together while creating Wu-Massacre, as they were all busy with other
commitments (Rae, in particular, was too busy pimping Only Built 4
Cuban Linx...Pt. II). It was also revealed that our three hosts for
the evening had nothing to do with the promotion for the album:
the label took the reigns and handled it all, implying that they also
had no input on the cool-as-fuck artwork and that Wu-Massacre, as a whole, was a Def Jam
construct more so than an actual album.
Fuck.
1. CRIMINOLOGY 2.5
I remember when “Criminology 2” (or “Criminology
'09”) first hit the Interweb as a way to promote Raekwon's last album Return
To Relevancy. I even mentioned in the comment box (back when I
still had one, before it just became ridiculous to maintain) that I was
underwhelmed. Today, I still am, but the funny thing, is, this is
an entirely different song. While there isn't any way to top
the original (from Only Built 4 Cuban Linx...), a good effort
would have, I don't know, actually included Raekwon, since it's his
fucking song and all; instead, he appears to have gone A.W.O.L. on
the very first track on Wu-Massacre. (Which is even weirder when you
consider that Ghostface Killah is speaking directly to the Chef at the
beginning of the track.) For the record, “Criminology '09” adhered very
closely to its predecessor's formula, with BT's beat trying its best
to not flat-out copy The Rza's handiwork, and the original “Criminology
2.5” that Def Jam leaked to Blogland was “Criminology '09” with a
Method Man homage to the original track tacked onto the end: the
version that actually made the final cut retains Meth's verse, erases
Rae (that's right, regardless of how it reads on the back cover,
the Chef fails to appear on this track), and alters Ghostface entirely:
instead of his original contribution, his verse from Rae's “The
Badlands” (a European bonus track from Return To Relevancy)
opens the album instead. What the fuck? The fact that all three
stars now fail to appear on the very first fucking song on Wu-Massacre concerns me more than a little
bit.
2. MEF VS. CHEF 2
For the most part, the Wu-Tang Clan don't do
well with sequels. (I'm talking about sequels to individual songs, not
album titles.) So kicking off Wu-Massacre with two follow-up tracks is
uncharacteristic at beat. The appeal of the first “Mef Vs. Chef” (from Tical)
was the lyrical battle that sounded as though The Rza recorded the two
participants inside an actual boxing ring, as Meth and Rae went toe to
toe, bar for bar (at least, until Rae flubbed his lines and threw the
fight, a curious goof that Meth included on the album anyway). The
Mathematics beat doesn't even try to approximate Prince Rakeem,
meaning that both artists (Ghostface Killah, seemingly upset that his
name isn't in the title of the song, rightfully sits this one out) are
stuck passing the mic back and forth over a truly shitty instrumental,
rendering all of their rhymes inconsequential. So far, this album is
making my soul cry.
3. YA MOMS SKIT
Entirely unnecessary. Oh, I get it: they're
trying to recreate the feeling of listening to the skit that preceded
“Method Man” on Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) for the first
time. It just isn't funny.
4. SMOOTH SAILING REMIX (FEAT SOLOMON CHILDS
& STREETLIFE)
After finishing the sandwich that he picked up
from a street vendor during the last track, Ghost tags Raekwon out and
spits over a Ty Fyffe instrumental that he sounds custom built for. I'm
not sure where the original version of this song ended up, but this
remix would have worked better has Solomon Childs been erased from the
master tapes, since his chorus is altogether terrible. Meth's
boy Streetlife, who makes his obligatory appearance because this is, in
fact, a Method Man album in some fashion, also performs an
embarrassing verse, attempting to drop the names of all of the Wu
members in a clever way, coming across as a mentally retarded follower
of The Game. Dude, you've been rhyming since Tical: there's no
excuse for you to sound like a fucking rookie now.
5. OUR DREAMS
Finally, Wu-Massacre supplies listeners with a song
that features all three of our hosts: fittingly enough, this is where
The Rza puts in his only work behind the boards, flipping Michael
Jackson's “We're Almost There” (are MJ's younger recordings less
expensive than his post-Off The Wall output? Would this song
have even happened had Jackson not passed away last year? Who knows?)
into what I believe is one of his most boring beats ever. (Some
would call this the work of a more mature Wu-Tang Clan. To that I say:
who in the hell wants to hear a more mature Wu-Tang Clan?) Ghost, Meth,
and Rae all mesh with the dull instrumental fairly effortlessly,
though, so that counts for something. But this shit did absolutely
nothing for me. Okay, I lied: the video for this song actually made me
laugh, as its homage to David Fincher's Seven (which still holds
up, by the way) has absolutely nothing to do with the subject
matter.
6. GUNSHOWERS (FEAT INSPECTAH DECK & SUN
GOD)
Digem's awkward, intermittent beat might have
worked for a hungry mixtape rapper, but not for these established
veterans. Rae takes yet another nap (I hope he gets his narcolepsy
treated very soon, as I'm getting worried for his well-being) while
Meth channels the late Russell Jones on the hook. Ghostface Killah
suffers through a cold or something: his verse sounds as though it was
performed by Cappadonna. Sun God tries yet again to earn his father's
respect, but Ghost pays no attention, of course, because he was nursing
the sniffles. In a shocking turn of events, Inspectah Deck atones for
the crappy The Resident Patient 2 by actually sounding decent.
But when you do okay work on a shitty song, does anybody ever truly
hear it?
7. DANGEROUS
Right now, I'm upset that all of the tracks Def
Jam leaked to the Interweb from Wu-Massacre implied that Meth, Ghost, and Rae
would appear on every song. I'm considering filing a lawsuit against
Def Jam for false advertising. It would be one thing if this was a
Method Man solo album “featuring Ghostface Killah and Raekwon”, but
they all share equal billing, so what the hell, man? Anyway,
this song is pretty awful. Apparently, the Wu-Tang Clan that I've grown
up with has been badgered into recording material that the label
thought would result in more sales, regardless of how well they fit
into the Wu canon. Suckers! Nobody buys Wu-Tang
Clan albums in 2010!
8. PIMPIN' CHIPP
In what is a bad sign for the trio but a good
look for fans of Ghostface Killah, Tony Starks rides for dolo on yet
another of his patented storytelling film treatment raps, one that
doesn't sound quite as good as his past work, but is still quite
enjoyable, as it probably would have fit in well on The Big Doe
Rehab. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to discover that Wu-Massacre was made up solely of outtakes
from the solo albums of our three hosts. The coda on here threw me off,
but the tale itself was alright.
9. HOW TO PAY RENT SKIT (FEAT TRACY MORGAN)
What the fuck?
10. MIRANDA
This sounds as though it was dropped from the
final tracklisting of Only Built 4 Cuban Linx...Pt. II. The
Mathematics piano loop does not grow annoying over time, and
Rae, Ghost, and Meth all shoot the shit about women (or possibly the
same girl). This was actually pretty ill: easily the best song
on Wu-Massacre thus far. Hell, this will probably
end up being the best song overall, seeing as though there are only
two songs left.
11. YOUNGSTOWN HEIST (FEAT TRIFE DA GOD, SHEEK
LOUCH, & BULLY)
In what is probably another leftover from a
Ghost solo project, Pretty Toney leaves Method Man and Raekwon stranded
on the side of the highway while his friends from the old neighborhood
plan a robbery. There's nothing inherently wrong with this track,
aside from the fact that it betrays the concept of Wu-Massacre: in fact, I found it kind of
entertaining. I'm led to believe that a collaborative effort between
Ghostface Killah and The Lox may prove more fruitful, relevant, and
profitable than this album, though. Come on, you know you
two have thought of the same idea before.
12. IT'S THAT WU SHIT
Wu-Massacre ends abruptly not with a posse cut
or a sound bite from a kung-fu flick, but with a track that sounds the
least like a Wu-Tang Clan song in the group's lengthy history.
Ghost and Meth attempt to throw listeners some lyrical darts, but end
up cowering in fear behind the oppressive Scram Jones regime of a beat.
I believe that there is no worse way for this album to have
ended, and I've listened to a lot of garbage because of this
blog. I actually feel betrayed.
THE LAST WORD: What the fuck have I just
suffered through? When Method Man, Ghostface Killah, and Raekwon
announced their Wu-Massacre project last year, I admit my
expectations may have been raised artificially higher than they should
have been (I was still riding the high from Raekwon's comeback
project), but the only thing that these three manage to massacre is the
idea that anybody in the Wu-Tang Clan is still capable of recording a
quality piece of work. Almost every single song on Wu-Massacre fucking sucks: every track
sounds as though it was patched together in a hurry (which, admittedly,
they were), as though Def Jam was putting together a mixtape to
advertise a future joint album between these three, but no, this
is the actual final product, and man, is it fucking disappointing.
Having an “album” of this magnitude come in at less than thirty
minutes in length is very fucking questionable. The idea of
limiting yourself to only ten tracks is admirable only if most
of the songs click. It seems that Def Jam put more thought into the
(awesome) album artwork than it did the actual music on the plastic
disc within the jewel case. Raekwon only appears on four out of twelve
tracks: that may prove to be the smartest move he has made in his
entire career. The brunt of this travesty is handled by Ghostface
(nine tracks) and Method Man (eight tracks), which makes sense when you
consider that these two are actual Def Jam employees, but they clearly
were not entirely focused on what they were doing. Wu-Tang Clan
fans will snatch this up anyway, but I'm here to warn you that you
will not enjoy it. (Remember, nobody purchases albums
just so they can have the artwork.) All Wu-Massacre has done is piss me off. All I can
hope is that Rae, Meth, and Ghost atone for their misdeeds very soon,
preferably on an indie label that won't fucking rush the product.
I realize that a large number of music critics
are jumping aboard the Wu-Massacre bandwagon, possibly in an attempt
to trick consumers into actively supporting artists who actually deserve
the attention. While that is an admirable reason, and while I
would love to see Wu-Massacre move more than one million units
(as it may convince Def Jam to release more of these type of projects),
I can't recommend that you two actively seek this album, as the path
will lead only to sadness. Sigh.
WISHFUL THINKING: Since we've seen the worst of
what the Wu has to offer, the next logical step would be to try this
concept again, but this time with Inspectah Deck, Masta Killa, and
Gza/Genius. Not only would a collaboration between these three be
easier to pull off (none of them are signed with a major anymore), it
could also reignite interest in the unsung heroes of the Clan
(yeah, I'm merely including Deck in that category because of his past
work and not his current output). They could even use the Three The
Hard Way crew moniker that Meth, Ghost, and Rae were going to
originally call themselves. If they take their time and hire quality
producers (I'm realistic, so not every track needs to be handled by The
Rza, but the Clan's leader should do more than just one fucking track)
and convince the other group members to stop by and drop a verse or
two, they could create a companion piece to Wu-Massacre that could eradicate the
memory of what I just listened to and reinvent the Wu-Tang Clan at
the same time. Just a thought, fellas.
http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/detail.asp?=Rocksmith-x-Be-Street-x-Wu-Tang-Clan-Wu-Massacre-LIMITED-EDITION-Rocksmith-Tokyo&UPC=RSWU01STS
Voilà une review ghostwritée par Malamati je pense^^
When the concept of Wu-Massacre was announced last year, I
shrieked like a little schoolgirl. What Wu stan wouldn't? A
collaborative effort by three members of the Wu-Tang Clan, as opposed
to yet another solo album? The posse cuts on the solo albums were
typically the highlight anyway: the members of the Wu-Tang Clan
sounded (mostly) good alone, but when combined with their brethren, it
was akin to mixing chemicals and having the beaker explode with
joy and/or spunk. So when I first heard that Method Man, Ghostface
Killah, and Raekwon would be joining forces to battle the dark side, I
was, obviously, excited. There was even an article where Ghost was
quoted as saying that these three are not forming a new group,
because they were already in the Clan, leading me to believe that Wu-Massacre wouldn't betray the original
intentions of the Wu: to take over the game using creativity instead of
cliché.
Wu-Massacre quickly jumped to the top of
the list of Wu-Tang Clan projects that I actually wanted to hear.
(Astute followers of HHID will notice that, as of this writing, I still
haven't written about Ghost's Ghostdini: The Wizard of Poetry In
Emerald City, the posthumous Ol' Dirty Bastard “album”, or
Inspectah Deck's Manifesto. Just because I love the Wu doesn't
mean that I need to go batshit crazy about every album, you know. I
still haven't reviewed the first Afro Samurai soundtrack,
either.)
And then the concerns started appearing.
First of all, Wu-Massacre was going to be released on Def
Jam Records, a label that (a) has had issues in the past with marketing
Method Man and Ghostface Killah albums (Raekwon is essentially an
A-list indie rapper), and (b) sucks balls today, with its emphasis on
artists such as Rick Ross. But that was still workable, because Def Jam
is still a major, and that just means that there may be more facings
of Wu-Massacre on store shelves at Best Buy. This
could still work.
And then the tracklisting leaked. Wu-Massacre only features twelve tracks, two
of which are (what I assume as unnecessary) skits. Ten tracks total.
Well, that isn't a big deal, right? Put our three hosts on every track,
with the occasional guest (names such as Deck and (ugh, really?)
Cappadonna were thrown about), and ten tracks could stretch out fairly
easily. It's better to have Wu-Massacre half short and twice strong,
right? All killer, no filler?
When I read about who would be contributing
beats to Wu-Massacre, a sinking feeling started to seep
in, because the only person I actually wanted to see on the
fucking album, The Rza, only handled the beat on one song. I
realize that the guy is busy, but if music is his first love, one would
think that Bobby Digital would
have some extra instrumentals lying around in the lab that he could
hand over to the guys he broke through with. But, sadly, even this
is something I can work around: it isn't as if The Rza is known these
days to handle an entire album that isn't his own.
Man, Wu stans can rationalize everything,
can't they?
Excitement on the Interweb reached a boiling
point when the album artwork leaked, as it is fucking badass.
Comic book fans especially were thrown for a loop, as Wu-Massacre now held the promise of being the
comeback Wu-Tang Clan album that fans have been waiting for ever since
the disappointing (to everyone else, maybe, but not me) 8 Diagrams
dropped. Even with Def Jam leaking single after single to various
blogs, I remained as amped up for Wu-Massacre as I was for the Slaughterhouse
album. There was no way that this album could be a complete
fuck-up, right?
And then Wu-Massacre rushed out of the faucet. And
mixed in with the praise of Meth, Ghost, and Rae's latest opus were
some very detailed criticisms of the project.
And then Method Man apologized for Wu-Massacre, saying that Def Jam rushed the
final product (which is weird, since it was originally supposed to drop
back in December but was pushed back to today) and that he, Ghost, and
Rae didn't get to make the album that they wanted. Meth also told
whoever would listen that there wasn't a time when all three rappers
appeared in the same room together while creating Wu-Massacre, as they were all busy with other
commitments (Rae, in particular, was too busy pimping Only Built 4
Cuban Linx...Pt. II). It was also revealed that our three hosts for
the evening had nothing to do with the promotion for the album:
the label took the reigns and handled it all, implying that they also
had no input on the cool-as-fuck artwork and that Wu-Massacre, as a whole, was a Def Jam
construct more so than an actual album.
Fuck.
1. CRIMINOLOGY 2.5
I remember when “Criminology 2” (or “Criminology
'09”) first hit the Interweb as a way to promote Raekwon's last album Return
To Relevancy. I even mentioned in the comment box (back when I
still had one, before it just became ridiculous to maintain) that I was
underwhelmed. Today, I still am, but the funny thing, is, this is
an entirely different song. While there isn't any way to top
the original (from Only Built 4 Cuban Linx...), a good effort
would have, I don't know, actually included Raekwon, since it's his
fucking song and all; instead, he appears to have gone A.W.O.L. on
the very first track on Wu-Massacre. (Which is even weirder when you
consider that Ghostface Killah is speaking directly to the Chef at the
beginning of the track.) For the record, “Criminology '09” adhered very
closely to its predecessor's formula, with BT's beat trying its best
to not flat-out copy The Rza's handiwork, and the original “Criminology
2.5” that Def Jam leaked to Blogland was “Criminology '09” with a
Method Man homage to the original track tacked onto the end: the
version that actually made the final cut retains Meth's verse, erases
Rae (that's right, regardless of how it reads on the back cover,
the Chef fails to appear on this track), and alters Ghostface entirely:
instead of his original contribution, his verse from Rae's “The
Badlands” (a European bonus track from Return To Relevancy)
opens the album instead. What the fuck? The fact that all three
stars now fail to appear on the very first fucking song on Wu-Massacre concerns me more than a little
bit.
2. MEF VS. CHEF 2
For the most part, the Wu-Tang Clan don't do
well with sequels. (I'm talking about sequels to individual songs, not
album titles.) So kicking off Wu-Massacre with two follow-up tracks is
uncharacteristic at beat. The appeal of the first “Mef Vs. Chef” (from Tical)
was the lyrical battle that sounded as though The Rza recorded the two
participants inside an actual boxing ring, as Meth and Rae went toe to
toe, bar for bar (at least, until Rae flubbed his lines and threw the
fight, a curious goof that Meth included on the album anyway). The
Mathematics beat doesn't even try to approximate Prince Rakeem,
meaning that both artists (Ghostface Killah, seemingly upset that his
name isn't in the title of the song, rightfully sits this one out) are
stuck passing the mic back and forth over a truly shitty instrumental,
rendering all of their rhymes inconsequential. So far, this album is
making my soul cry.
3. YA MOMS SKIT
Entirely unnecessary. Oh, I get it: they're
trying to recreate the feeling of listening to the skit that preceded
“Method Man” on Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) for the first
time. It just isn't funny.
4. SMOOTH SAILING REMIX (FEAT SOLOMON CHILDS
& STREETLIFE)
After finishing the sandwich that he picked up
from a street vendor during the last track, Ghost tags Raekwon out and
spits over a Ty Fyffe instrumental that he sounds custom built for. I'm
not sure where the original version of this song ended up, but this
remix would have worked better has Solomon Childs been erased from the
master tapes, since his chorus is altogether terrible. Meth's
boy Streetlife, who makes his obligatory appearance because this is, in
fact, a Method Man album in some fashion, also performs an
embarrassing verse, attempting to drop the names of all of the Wu
members in a clever way, coming across as a mentally retarded follower
of The Game. Dude, you've been rhyming since Tical: there's no
excuse for you to sound like a fucking rookie now.
5. OUR DREAMS
Finally, Wu-Massacre supplies listeners with a song
that features all three of our hosts: fittingly enough, this is where
The Rza puts in his only work behind the boards, flipping Michael
Jackson's “We're Almost There” (are MJ's younger recordings less
expensive than his post-Off The Wall output? Would this song
have even happened had Jackson not passed away last year? Who knows?)
into what I believe is one of his most boring beats ever. (Some
would call this the work of a more mature Wu-Tang Clan. To that I say:
who in the hell wants to hear a more mature Wu-Tang Clan?) Ghost, Meth,
and Rae all mesh with the dull instrumental fairly effortlessly,
though, so that counts for something. But this shit did absolutely
nothing for me. Okay, I lied: the video for this song actually made me
laugh, as its homage to David Fincher's Seven (which still holds
up, by the way) has absolutely nothing to do with the subject
matter.
6. GUNSHOWERS (FEAT INSPECTAH DECK & SUN
GOD)
Digem's awkward, intermittent beat might have
worked for a hungry mixtape rapper, but not for these established
veterans. Rae takes yet another nap (I hope he gets his narcolepsy
treated very soon, as I'm getting worried for his well-being) while
Meth channels the late Russell Jones on the hook. Ghostface Killah
suffers through a cold or something: his verse sounds as though it was
performed by Cappadonna. Sun God tries yet again to earn his father's
respect, but Ghost pays no attention, of course, because he was nursing
the sniffles. In a shocking turn of events, Inspectah Deck atones for
the crappy The Resident Patient 2 by actually sounding decent.
But when you do okay work on a shitty song, does anybody ever truly
hear it?
7. DANGEROUS
Right now, I'm upset that all of the tracks Def
Jam leaked to the Interweb from Wu-Massacre implied that Meth, Ghost, and Rae
would appear on every song. I'm considering filing a lawsuit against
Def Jam for false advertising. It would be one thing if this was a
Method Man solo album “featuring Ghostface Killah and Raekwon”, but
they all share equal billing, so what the hell, man? Anyway,
this song is pretty awful. Apparently, the Wu-Tang Clan that I've grown
up with has been badgered into recording material that the label
thought would result in more sales, regardless of how well they fit
into the Wu canon. Suckers! Nobody buys Wu-Tang
Clan albums in 2010!
8. PIMPIN' CHIPP
In what is a bad sign for the trio but a good
look for fans of Ghostface Killah, Tony Starks rides for dolo on yet
another of his patented storytelling film treatment raps, one that
doesn't sound quite as good as his past work, but is still quite
enjoyable, as it probably would have fit in well on The Big Doe
Rehab. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to discover that Wu-Massacre was made up solely of outtakes
from the solo albums of our three hosts. The coda on here threw me off,
but the tale itself was alright.
9. HOW TO PAY RENT SKIT (FEAT TRACY MORGAN)
What the fuck?
10. MIRANDA
This sounds as though it was dropped from the
final tracklisting of Only Built 4 Cuban Linx...Pt. II. The
Mathematics piano loop does not grow annoying over time, and
Rae, Ghost, and Meth all shoot the shit about women (or possibly the
same girl). This was actually pretty ill: easily the best song
on Wu-Massacre thus far. Hell, this will probably
end up being the best song overall, seeing as though there are only
two songs left.
11. YOUNGSTOWN HEIST (FEAT TRIFE DA GOD, SHEEK
LOUCH, & BULLY)
In what is probably another leftover from a
Ghost solo project, Pretty Toney leaves Method Man and Raekwon stranded
on the side of the highway while his friends from the old neighborhood
plan a robbery. There's nothing inherently wrong with this track,
aside from the fact that it betrays the concept of Wu-Massacre: in fact, I found it kind of
entertaining. I'm led to believe that a collaborative effort between
Ghostface Killah and The Lox may prove more fruitful, relevant, and
profitable than this album, though. Come on, you know you
two have thought of the same idea before.
12. IT'S THAT WU SHIT
Wu-Massacre ends abruptly not with a posse cut
or a sound bite from a kung-fu flick, but with a track that sounds the
least like a Wu-Tang Clan song in the group's lengthy history.
Ghost and Meth attempt to throw listeners some lyrical darts, but end
up cowering in fear behind the oppressive Scram Jones regime of a beat.
I believe that there is no worse way for this album to have
ended, and I've listened to a lot of garbage because of this
blog. I actually feel betrayed.
THE LAST WORD: What the fuck have I just
suffered through? When Method Man, Ghostface Killah, and Raekwon
announced their Wu-Massacre project last year, I admit my
expectations may have been raised artificially higher than they should
have been (I was still riding the high from Raekwon's comeback
project), but the only thing that these three manage to massacre is the
idea that anybody in the Wu-Tang Clan is still capable of recording a
quality piece of work. Almost every single song on Wu-Massacre fucking sucks: every track
sounds as though it was patched together in a hurry (which, admittedly,
they were), as though Def Jam was putting together a mixtape to
advertise a future joint album between these three, but no, this
is the actual final product, and man, is it fucking disappointing.
Having an “album” of this magnitude come in at less than thirty
minutes in length is very fucking questionable. The idea of
limiting yourself to only ten tracks is admirable only if most
of the songs click. It seems that Def Jam put more thought into the
(awesome) album artwork than it did the actual music on the plastic
disc within the jewel case. Raekwon only appears on four out of twelve
tracks: that may prove to be the smartest move he has made in his
entire career. The brunt of this travesty is handled by Ghostface
(nine tracks) and Method Man (eight tracks), which makes sense when you
consider that these two are actual Def Jam employees, but they clearly
were not entirely focused on what they were doing. Wu-Tang Clan
fans will snatch this up anyway, but I'm here to warn you that you
will not enjoy it. (Remember, nobody purchases albums
just so they can have the artwork.) All Wu-Massacre has done is piss me off. All I can
hope is that Rae, Meth, and Ghost atone for their misdeeds very soon,
preferably on an indie label that won't fucking rush the product.
I realize that a large number of music critics
are jumping aboard the Wu-Massacre bandwagon, possibly in an attempt
to trick consumers into actively supporting artists who actually deserve
the attention. While that is an admirable reason, and while I
would love to see Wu-Massacre move more than one million units
(as it may convince Def Jam to release more of these type of projects),
I can't recommend that you two actively seek this album, as the path
will lead only to sadness. Sigh.
WISHFUL THINKING: Since we've seen the worst of
what the Wu has to offer, the next logical step would be to try this
concept again, but this time with Inspectah Deck, Masta Killa, and
Gza/Genius. Not only would a collaboration between these three be
easier to pull off (none of them are signed with a major anymore), it
could also reignite interest in the unsung heroes of the Clan
(yeah, I'm merely including Deck in that category because of his past
work and not his current output). They could even use the Three The
Hard Way crew moniker that Meth, Ghost, and Rae were going to
originally call themselves. If they take their time and hire quality
producers (I'm realistic, so not every track needs to be handled by The
Rza, but the Clan's leader should do more than just one fucking track)
and convince the other group members to stop by and drop a verse or
two, they could create a companion piece to Wu-Massacre that could eradicate the
memory of what I just listened to and reinvent the Wu-Tang Clan at
the same time. Just a thought, fellas.
Wilson Fisk- Nombre de messages : 2729
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Date d'inscription : 03/06/2008
- Message n°44
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
RZA a confirmé sur Twitter que Liquid Swords 2, produit par lui-même, sortira cet été
JP Kof Kof- Nombre de messages : 790
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Points : 607
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- Message n°45
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
cet automne (fall)
Wilson Fisk- Nombre de messages : 2729
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Points : 2196
Date d'inscription : 03/06/2008
- Message n°46
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
Pourquoi j'ai dis cet été
JP Kof Kof- Nombre de messages : 790
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- Message n°47
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
t'es pressé^^
JP Kof Kof- Nombre de messages : 790
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- Message n°48
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
By the way... REVENGE OF THE 9TH PRINCE est pas mal du tout!! j vous le conseille
Malamati- Nombre de messages : 4032
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- Message n°49
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
envoi un lien stp. mais ya beaucoup de son connu non?
JP Kof Kof- Nombre de messages : 790
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- Message n°50
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
j sais pas... j crois pas c'est un nouveau skeud, y a juste la version promo qui tournait. en tt cas y a 2-3 sons qui pètent vraiment bien, un bon feat de RZA...
GweN- Nombre de messages : 1516
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- Message n°51
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
Parait que GZA pense à un Liquid Swords 2
Wilson Fisk- Nombre de messages : 2729
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Date d'inscription : 03/06/2008
- Message n°52
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
Monsieur a écrit:RZA a confirmé sur Twitter que Liquid Swords 2, produit par lui-même, sortira cet automne
GweN- Nombre de messages : 1516
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- Message n°53
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Monsieur a écrit:Monsieur a écrit:RZA a confirmé sur Twitter que Liquid Swords 2, produit par lui-même, sortira cet automne
Autant pour moi ! A voir ce que ça va donner
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- Message n°54
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
ça a beau être du bronze nazareth typique qui change pas de d'habitude, j suis encore à attendre ça comme une pucelle attend sa première pétée
Malamati- Nombre de messages : 4032
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- Message n°55
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
pour du 60 second assassin c'est décevant.
Wilson Fisk- Nombre de messages : 2729
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- Message n°56
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1. Roll with Killer Bees - Yellow Jackets
2. Headline -
Armel, 12 O'Clock, Rev. Burke, & PSunn
3. Assed Out - Wu-Tang
Clan
4. Dirts the Boogie - ODB and Boy Jones
5. You Must be
Dreaming - Bobby Digital and Kinetic 9
6. M.E.F. - Johnny Blaze
7.
Smooth Sailing - Trife, Solomon & Ghost
8. Get it Started -
Nate, King Just & YC
9. Faced Down - Streetlife
10. Testimony -
Priest and Remedy
11. Action - Solomon Childs
12. No Game Around
Here - Killer Bees
13. Into You - Rev. Burke and Rugged Monk
14.
Trasporting - JoJo and Remedy
15. Flight of the Killer Bees - Rev.
Burke and PSun
Spect- Nombre de messages : 48
Age : 35
Localisation : Ouzoo City
Equipes favorites : Juve / Boca / Raiders
Points : 48
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- Message n°57
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
c'est quoi ce truc encore ? en tout cas on peut pas dire que les covers ne sont pas soignées lol
JP Kof Kof- Nombre de messages : 790
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- Message n°58
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
volume 3 de Wu-Tang Killa Bees après l'essaim et le dard, le pollen^^
j'ai écouté les snippets c'est pas vraiment du wu pur jus à part quelques titres mais dans l'ensemble c'est pas horrible. faut voir les chansons entières, l'enchaînement 3-4-5-6 a un beau casting...
j'ai écouté les snippets c'est pas vraiment du wu pur jus à part quelques titres mais dans l'ensemble c'est pas horrible. faut voir les chansons entières, l'enchaînement 3-4-5-6 a un beau casting...
Malamati- Nombre de messages : 4032
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Points : 3326
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- Message n°59
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
Le 60 second assassin est dispo. ça se laisse écouter.
GweN- Nombre de messages : 1516
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- Message n°60
Re: Wu-Tang Chamber Music Fuck-in the party up in
Killa Beez 3 est dispo